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Postby andy_89 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:00 pm

what cymbals does matt use?
i saw it were avedis zildjian cymbals.. prob. 18" and 20" inch, but does anyone know how heavy they are? e.g. medium thin, thin?

i tried some avedis zildjians and i also had some in my drum setup but i couldnt copy his cymbal sound
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Postby stinkipete » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:54 pm

recording techniques on cymbals can also have a great effect on their sound. don't be put off if yours aren't perfectly the same.

he also uses a crash-ride and a crash, rather than ride and a crash or two as is the norm.

i think ;) x
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Postby andy_89 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:13 pm

stinkipete wrote:recording techniques on cymbals can also have a great effect on their sound. don't be put off if yours aren't perfectly the same.

he also uses a crash-ride and a crash, rather than ride and a crash or two as is the norm.

i think ;) x

yeah.. wikipedia says its an 18" fast crash and a 20" crash ride

today i exchanged my medium-thin avedis cymbals for thin ones, and they sound much more like the ones that matt has 8)
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Postby wueeee » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:09 pm

From what i saw on this vid : http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQqQMunGGio

He uses bigger cymbals now... he doesn't use any bright cymbals... he uses classic cymbals like K's or avedis to get that "raw"/strokes sound on the hihats...

i'm guessing he uses a newbeat/mastersound hihat
a 18'' or 19'' crash
and i'm 99% sure because of what i saw on the video and because is the same cymbal i got ... that he uses a 21'' sweet ride... in order to have a very washy sound ... but also allow him to ping on it if he needs to...

(could anyone re-upload the mp3 of sandtrap that i requested on the sandtrap thread?? here >> http://www.arctic-monkeys.com/forum/vie ... 8&start=15 )

c ya
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Postby andy_89 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:29 pm

wueeee wrote:From what i saw on this vid : http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQqQMunGGio

He uses bigger cymbals now... he doesn't use any bright cymbals... he uses classic cymbals like K's or avedis to get that "raw"/strokes sound on the hihats...

i'm guessing he uses a newbeat/mastersound hihat
a 18'' or 19'' crash
and i'm 99% sure because of what i saw on the video and because is the same cymbal i got ... that he uses a 21'' sweet ride... in order to have a very washy sound ... but also allow him to ping on it if he needs to...

(could anyone re-upload the mp3 of sandtrap that i requested on the sandtrap thread?? here >> http://www.arctic-monkeys.com/forum/vie ... 8&start=15 )

c ya

thanks man

so avedis sweet rides can be used as crashes as well? (and still sound great)
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Postby wueeee » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:56 pm

yeah ... i've been playing drums for a while now ... and i even reacorded using rides as crashes... many people do that...

in fact, right now i'm using a 20'' a custom crash, a 20'' a custom brilliant ride as my main crash, and a 21'' sweet ride as my ride ... but i'm constantly washing on it too and it sounds great!, and a 14'' new beat hats...

the thing is... washing on a 21'' sweet ride is pretty cool but, in my opinion, you need a big crash (18'' or higher) in order to "even" sounds... if you use a 14 or 16'' crash and you wash on a 21'' ride... the crashes won't even sound in comparison to the ride... if you know what i mean...

but yeah, 21'' sweet ride ... is a very cool rock ride... you can wash on it and it sounds great and you can also ping on it and it sounds great too.. imo

but the thing with crashrides is (through my personal expirience) ... they wash okey... but they do not ping as good... and maybe today you want to play a kind of music in which you are constantly washing on your cymbals... but if tommorow you want to play a type of music in which you want to ping a lot (as in the police) ...

so you always have to try and buy cymbals that might help you play different styles of music and sound cool ...

sory for the longness

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Postby StillTakeYouHome505 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:03 pm

stinkipete wrote:recording techniques on cymbals can also have a great effect on their sound. don't be put off if yours aren't perfectly the same.

he also uses a crash-ride and a crash, rather than ride and a crash or two as is the norm.

i think ;) x


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Postby andy_89 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:35 pm

wueeee wrote:sory for the longness

dont say sorry for that :razz:

i'm thinking about getting an avedis sweet ride now.. or maybe sabian AA or... i dont know :P
anyway, i learned from your story

btw here are some pics of my kit
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 501xi1.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 310en2.jpg
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